Video instructions and help with filling out and completing Are Form 5495 Assessment

Instructions and Help about Are Form 5495 Assessment

I eat Rory from the YouTube channel counselling resource along with Bob cook from the YouTube ta therapy and today we're talking about assessment now you know what a lot of my learners when they first come into practice they've not met plans before always ask me how do I assess what can I work with what would I struggle with a lot of fear around that sometimes our concern you've had a lot of experience in assessing people so what's the first point we come from as your first point my first point actually besides finding out what they want is to ask what I think is a really really important question to ask and that is have you had any counseling or psychotherapy bit more because once you ask that question you're straight into their mental health background yes so you're straight into them saying things like yes or actually I've been to GPS or I accessing a psychiatrist or I've done no mental health work before or you're the first person I've seen but you get it glimpse into their mental health yes agility yes and I guess that if you work you're sort of see the psychiatrist and psychologist have counseling maybe into the GP and be on medication always or which are valid things to support people it gives you an idea of maybe the route you'll take to the next question yeah absolutely because you want to know from them not only what is they one for therapy or what does it work casting but you want to know that I suppose what you really want to know is your turn some idea how to assess their ego state capacity and particularly their mature adult hmm now first crazy guess they capacity was more of a transaxle yeah mister but when I say mature adults what I mean is how how can they maintain their adult level of functioning in the world today so you're tempted to assess are they able to stay in here and they're eating can they function from an adult place and if not where do they actually go into them so they go back to some aggressive place mm-hmm is this some type of psychosis are they attitude with reality or what stops functioning the way they want to function so a good question simply would be as I've said tell me a little bit about what stops you getting what you want okay so I guess on here you talk about is something that in the person-centered world and certainly the Rogers ideas we talked about the first of the necessary efficient conditions which is psychological contact you're assessing their ability for psychological comes out this notion of a guess and correct me if I'm wrong is it possible to start to form a therapeutic relationship and at what level yeah can you have a human to human contact in a way where both of you in the room together yes yes so right from the beginning if I guess if you've got someone with a psyche psychosis it might not be in the here and now might be or well may be disassociated or disconnected from our reality as we perceive them then you guess you have another decision to make in terms of the path that this assessment will go yes and of course what's very important is your development as a trainee yes it was where are you in your training yes have you been trained to be able to help person with what they want to achieve now for many people of course you might be seeing your first client now if somebody comes in the room and says well actually you know I've got problems with alcohol or I've been binging for the last 10 years or I'm delusionary or I've got mental health problems which you know prevent me to have some have some psychosis or then they're not sort of people that you want to work you need to refer them all so there's a clear clear message at the beginning your trainee for your new in practice and you're getting multiple presentations it could be substance misuse it could be issues a gas around self-harm or of very present pressing suicidal thoughts or even somebody who clearly is unwell who's not in the same reality they may be hearing voices they may be having delusionary visions then for the new in practice therapy I use the word novice always not word I kind of like but the novice service is a clearly verbal pathway yeah it's very important to have your contact phone numbers to give to that person to have access to a psychiatrist GPS people you can refer on to yes yes so before the meeting you have sometimes referred to as a little black book are the contact numbers are at the very least the contact number guessing of if it's really an organization the refer the practice manager absolutely really important because it's unprofessional let alone cups that's certainly not protective if you've got no phone numbers no with rural agents for the first ticket absolutely and that's at any level of the therapeutic relationship yes yeah and of course again you know I think it's really important is one level to make life easy for you when you're first starting out yes so you know as a phrase I particularly like which is you know the worry well yes that's a good bit about say learner well I see something that one hears as a trainee the worried well and I guess the worried well are people who are coming to you for relationship issues they might have low self-esteem they may be dissatisfied with life but the key thing is is that is that they will be in a position where they are understanding their own reality I want to say that Bob